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Ted Todd
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posted 10-08-2010 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ted Todd     Edit/Delete Message
I recently had two applicants that I tested for LE positions. Both graduated from the same unnamed academy (Sacramento PD). Both applicants attempted to alter their breathing on the test. When I confronted them, they both admitted to using "Combat Breathing" techniques that they were taught in the police academy. One of them stated that he was told by an instructor that using Combat Breathing was a sure way to pass his polygraph exam.

Combat Breathing (AKA: Stress or Crisis Breathing) is a technique we teach cadets at our academy to combat the effects of the "Adrenaline Dump" that occurs during a crisis such as being under fire. (It also helps to keep the moisture level in one's BVDs to a minimum !)

I am a little bent out of shape that any instructor at a police academy would tell a cadet such a thing. It is also VERY OBVIOUS on the polygraph charts.

Has anyone else ever had an applicant try this?

Ted

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sackett
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posted 10-08-2010 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sackett   Click Here to Email sackett     Edit/Delete Message
Ted,

most current "combat" or conflict breathing requires coordinated speech including verbal commands for the purpose of ensuring the officer is breathing properly. These instructions and demands are intended not only for the bad guy to comply but also for witnesses.

I've never heard of any police training which requires or mandates coordinated breathing without commands, and certainly not related to "beating a polygraph."

Sounds to me like a police TAC Officer practicing polygraph without a license...


Jim

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Barry C
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posted 10-09-2010 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barry C   Click Here to Email Barry C     Edit/Delete Message
Combat breathing works like this: breath in for a count of 4; hold for a count of 4; breath out for a count of 4; repeat (often 4 times). I've never heard of talking with it. Maybe that's published someplace, but I've not seen it that way. It is supposed to reduce the FFF response. It appears people believe our story that FFF is what's going on during a polygraph....

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Ted Todd
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posted 10-09-2010 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ted Todd     Edit/Delete Message
Jim,

I am familiar with tactical commands that are also for the benefit of witnesses but not when combined with the tactical breathing. Anyway, my whole point here is that the four second ratios in the respiration tracing is so obvious that it is a really stupid thing to be telling cadets to try. I was mainly curious to see if anyone else had ever encountered this with the admission of trying tactical breathing.

Will we be seeing you in Boston? I am sure Barry will be there!

Ted

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